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X2PPro 007 - Roundtrip to AE

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Being a complete newb on AE I had a try with this and managed a basic lower thirds start title without breaking anything and I like being able to see the changes in PPro. When I got to the end credits I put a slug in then replaced with AE Comp again. It wanted me to save a new project name so I did. I did simple end title and though I couldn't figure out how to get my 2 test elements to fade in and out in the 2mins I looked, I could see it in PPro. The problem was that my start title was now the same as the end one ??? How did that happen? I have the original AE project but no idea how to relink it

September 24, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAndrew Howe

Andrew, are u on CS5? I think what happened is this. You accidentally QUIT AE between the two titles. Your SECOND title then took on the default name of the first title and then everything got out of wack. Next time keep AE open the whole time, it'll then take a unique default name and everything will be smooth sailing, like on the HMS Belfast. Leave the link to your project so others can see.

Cheers!

September 24, 2010 | Registered CommenterChris Fenwick

That could well have happened as previous sessions with PPro have resulted in quite a few reboots. Should that be necessary again, if I open AE first with the linking project, should it play nice with PPro again?

The project Chris mentioned is http://www.vimeo.com/15239875 and this is attempt no 1. on my X2PPRO journey. As a test this was more about the editing than the edit (which probably shows). I deliberately chose presets in MBL that had a lot of components in them and then tweaked them a bit. Playback on 1/4 res was passable if a bit stuttery through the transitions before rendering. The implementation of the plug-in seems a bit better implemented in PPro than FCP. Render times were roughly 2-3x real time. All the cores were used but none looked busy and neither was RAM or Disk (is GPU holding it back?). This is on a 2x2.93 Nehalem with 12Gb RAM and a GT120 GFX card.

My normal method for Vimeo from FCP is to make a finished mov in ProRes then to transcode to a AppleTV 720p profile using an Elgato Turbo H264 which then lives in my iTunes library. I use that file to upload to Vimeo. For PPro I used the same ATV intermediary using its own preset but checking this has changed the frame rate to 24p from 25p which I think has made it a bit jittery. Not a big help when you are shooting handheld and a coffee addict already. On the transcoder it was slower than the Elgato but it is hyperthreaded so I was showing 16 cores...now that's a rare sight

September 24, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAndrew Howe

Hmm 25 - 24fps. I bet that is a by product of coders ASSUMING everyone lives on North America.

You could carefully craft your own preset that is exactly what you need.

Maybe a tutorial is in order...

September 24, 2010 | Registered CommenterChris Fenwick

So are you saying you can't quit AE and/or PP until all your graphics are done? That can't be true. So if I've done one title one day, what is the correct way to start the next day's work ... to get AE and PP project in sync?

October 6, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRob Shaver

what I do Rob is to launch AE before I try a round trip... i see the two as working in concert with each other... otherwise PPro will start a new AE project...I like having everything in one project.

October 6, 2010 | Registered CommenterChris Fenwick

Hi Chris,
I've found your site recently and I have to say that I liked a lot... and I've watched all your latest videos.
Frist, I have to say that I'm from Brazil (as you might know, we speak protuguese) and you'll need to be patient with my english mistakes, ok?

I work with Premiere since 1998 and I think I can help you guys with some os your issues...
Lets go:

In this especific topico "Dynamic Link between PP and AE" I believe that the best way to reach your objectives is:

1. Go frist to AE and make your titles, or even just a draf
2. Then in PP "import" the AE project as a file to the project. That will let choose the comp or all comps from the project.
3. Finally place the comp in the PP time line
--> THAT MAKES THE LINK ACTIVE - You can open the comp, change it and see the modification immediately in PP (since you save you work at AE, from premiere right-click at the archive i project window and choose "edit original" -- That opens AE)

This workflow help you in same points you share with us in your video:
1. The length of your comp in PP will be preserved... If you change in AE it will change in PP
2. The name of the comp will be preserved too, as you've named in AE

After all, If you still prefer use the "Color Matte" as you shown... You can import the AE project's comp you like and replace it in the timeline. Choose your clip ou color matte at timeline and then, with ALT (or OPTION) pressed, carry the comp from the project window to the place where your clip are in the time line... it will be replaced by the link of the comp.

Well...
I Wish it help you all people...

October 7, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJanaina Patrocinio

Janaina... does your method of starting in AE allow me to import a composition after I've been working for a while..??

I will need to add elements after I'm well on the way and maybe even nearing completion with my project...

the reason I work the way I do is I never know when I'll have to make my title before hand.

I'm a bit confused... can I import ONE composition from a large AE file?

But thanks for your input.

October 8, 2010 | Registered CommenterChris Fenwick

Yes, Chris,
You can import a composition after work for a while... I just save it and import it in PP.
That's the beaty of Dynamic Link...
You can anytime "Edit Original" from PP and add or delete content from yours Comps...

And finally, yes, you can import only 1 comp from a AE file.
Actually, you can also import timelines from others PP projects by the same way.
It works justa like a PSD importation... every time it asks you if you wanna just a layer os all etc...

It works for me for a while.
Try it and you will be really happy with your workflow...

October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJanaina Patrocinio

Just a little trick.
I close the AE project just before I import it to PP.
Then I'm sure that I'm working in the LINKED file when I use "Edit Original"...
It's just like reopenned by PP.

October 8, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJanaina Patrocinio

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